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PostSubject: Did you see this?   Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:33 pm

Did anyone see this?

Who was the guest and who did he name?

On Wednesday 10th February, Genesis TV hosted a ‘Live @ Nine’ programme, where the guest ‘named the names’ of international Christian leaders who, in his view, were not walking in biblical truth.


The comments made in the programme have caused concern and confusion for a number of viewers, who have contacted the channel for clarity on the issue, particularly because some of the named ministries, and individuals, have programmes on Genesis TV or Revelation TV.


The leadership of Genesis and Revelation TV wish to respond in the following way:


1. The guest on the programme was not given permission by the leadership to name individuals and ministries during the programme and we regret that he did so. If he had asked the leadership for permission prior to the programme it would have been refused. Therefore, this programme was not repeated and was pulled from our schedules.

2. The Bible is the basis of all that Genesis and Revelation TV does. The TV stations have a written and detailed Statement of Faith, which is modelled on that of the Evangelical Alliance in the UK. However the leadership acknowledge that on many issues the Scriptures are open to different interpretations.

3. The leadership of Genesis and Revelation TV believes in a ‘broad’ church. What do we mean by that? We mean that we welcome on to the TV stations, as guests, individuals who represent many different strands of Christendom, which can cause at times guests to express views contrary to other guests.

4. We believe that the forum for expressing conflicting views is in a debate environment, where guests of opposing views on a given subject, can present their views, argue their points, and then leave viewers to weigh what has been said and make their own minds up.

5. We regret that the views expressed in the ‘Live @ Nine’ programme on the 10th February were not said in a debate setting, where the named individuals, or others of a similar persuasion to the named individuals, could have had an opportunity to respond to what was said.


We believe in the words of the Psalmist who wrote ‘Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity ….. for there the Lord commands the blessings.’ Our desire at Genesis and Revelation TV is for the TV stations to be a platform to encourage unity, and not conflict within the body of Christ, so that together we can move out to proclaim the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to a broken and hurting world.


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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:04 am

I saw the comments on FB but didn't see the programme.
The Guest was Justin Peters. He is an amazingly straight talking bloke who was told at a young age that he didn't have enough faith.
He has Cerebal Palsy, and according to the Wealth/health brigade he would be healed if he had enough faith.

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According to the comments on the Gen/Rev fan page, there is/was a youtube link to see parts of the programme but I couldn't find it.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:17 am

Found this:

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There are quite a few articles on this online..it is sad, I love RTV but I think they let themselves down here by being not quite able to decide where they stand.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:04 am

This type of thing really saddens me.

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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:07 am

That he named names or that Lesley responded as she did?

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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:20 am

I'm fairly certain Anne is disappointed with Lesley, Hetty.

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I say it is sitting on the fence and not letting new Christians know that there are dodgy ministries out there that causes confusion [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

When we first had Sky telly, RTV didn't exist as a channel, and we waded through an awful lots of rubbish to find the odd good programme.
We had no idea what to think about most of the Godtv/TBN stuff, thankfully God showed us the way through.
But I know many Christians who have fallen into the trap of these Health/Wealth wolves. Even long standing Christians who have been caught out still fall for others of the same ilk.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:29 am

I have to agree with you Elaine

It makes me sad too.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:12 am

I think Lesley is in the wrong.
I'm getting a shock everyday at the minute.
The little woman in my church told me she felt offended when our pastor speaks about hell and another woman I spoke to on Sunday when I asked her if she was going to join our church she said, not yet as I have issues. She made sure she told me one of her issues and it was because one of our young elders wears shorts in the summer.
Then another lovely man quite elderly said he wasn't to going to become a member as he didn't like our other pastor who has came to help and talks about hell and the gospel a lot and it is really opening a can of worms...i'm beginning to wonder why a saved person would be offended by the Gospel?
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But I know many Christians who have fallen into the trap of these Health/Wealth wolves. Even long standing Christians who have been caught out still fall for others of the same ilk.
My sister in laws sister Elaine, has fell hook line and sinker and she is a lovely christian woman.

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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:54 pm

Justin Peters is on FB, and I sent him a message of support.

I know how my non-Christian family react to the dodgy folk, and someone speaking plainly does NOT confuse them.

But, the message the WoF tribe give out can greatly confuse someone who's hurting and searching, along with making them much poorer.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:20 am

I'll try and find him on facebbok and support im as well. Good idea

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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:43 am

If you could add Justin as a friend there are some posters on there who seem to have their ears to the ground.

Justin said he isn't bothered that he was slandered by Lesley, but he is bothered that they have a problem with him (or anyone) naming the WoF ministries.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:45 pm

Thanks Elaine
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:27 am

Just another quick thought.

I'm fairly certain that no one at RTV would have a problem naming & shaming Dan Brown for leading people astray.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:31 am

Is Dan Brown the wee old Irish man Elaine?

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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:16 am

Dan Brown, the writer of the dodgy books............... flip, I can't remember what they're called now.................... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Can you remember the little Irish bloke in the early days Anne? Said he was an ex-priest?
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:49 pm

Dan Brown wrote The DaVinci Code. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:50 pm

Thanks Hetty, I can't get into my account on facebook it won't let me log in and then when I do re-set my password and get in it won't let me answer a post it says ''you need to be logged in to do this'' Shocked I'm a bit sick of it to tell the truth

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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:58 pm

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That's a bit strange Anne, I thought FB had settled a bit since all the mess with the changes.
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PostSubject: Re: Did you see this?   Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:27 pm

I tried to look at your profile last night anne and it said it was unavaliable confused

BTW, I live not far from the famous Rosslyn Church in the final scenes of The Da Vinci Code..if you've read it!
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